Luxury Cost Without Reliability, Hydrogen Flight, Captured Carbon Beer, and Smart Oilfields

Spending close to $100,000 on a luxury SUV should buy peace of mind, not a higher tolerance for problems. We dig into why “premium” and “reliable” don’t always go hand in hand, using real-world impressions of the Range Rover Sport as a jumping-off point and then zooming in on what the latest dependability rankings really tell buyers. When J.D. Power puts Mini near the top while Land Rover stays near the bottom, it raises an uncomfortable question: how does an aspirational brand protect trust if quality never catches up to the price tag? 

From there, we broaden the lens to cover innovation, competitiveness, and the cost of short-term thinking. A hydrogen turboprop test flight in China sparks a broader conversation about alternative propulsion, aerospace technology, autonomy, and the knock-on benefits of sustained research and development. I connect that to what happens when companies cut R&D during recessions and to why the winners often keep investing even when it hurts. 

Then we dive into one of the most unexpected mobility-adjacent climate stories: beer carbonated with CO2 captured directly from the air at the brewery. We break down direct air capture, on-site carbon dioxide supply, purity standards, and why “commercially viable” matters more than flashy headlines. We close by balancing the energy transition debate with a grounded look at shale oil’s next wave, including AI-driven optimization, infrastructure bottlenecks, and what it could mean for energy markets.. 

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I'm Ken Chester.

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It's time for the Tech Mobility Show with Ken Chester, your trusted source for news, insights, and perspective at the fast-moving intersection of mobility and technology. Brought to you by Playbook Investors Network, your strategic partner for business growth. Visit Kincommunity.org to get started. And now, direct from the historic AON Studios. Here's your host, Ken Chester.

Range Rover Quality Lags Luxury Price

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Real facts, real opinions, real talk. Welcome to the Tech Mobility Show with me, Ken Chester, your front row seat to the stories and trends driving mobility and technology. We got a lot ahead, so let's get started. On the docket. To add your voice to the conversation, be it to ask a question, share an opinion, or even to suggest a topic for future discussion, call or text the Tech Mobility Hotline. That number, 872-222-9793, or you can email the show directly talk at Techmobility. From the Tech Mobility News Desk, we're going to talk about vehicle quality. I recently, in the last few weeks, had an opportunity to spend some quality time with the Range Rover, Land R the Land Rover, Range Rover sport. And as far as a luxury SUV goes, it would seem that the sport would have it all. It's luxurious. It could go anywhere. It has got capability in spades, this thing. It can ford water up to 28, 29 inches with no problem whatsoever. It can tackle crazy grades. It's built to do all that stuff, yet coddle passengers in all kinds of luxury and comfort. And that would be awesome, except for one recurring problem that the brand can't seem to shake. And it's its quality. They have been perennially at the bottom of the consumer report's evaluations year after year after year. And I've said here before that in the annual evaluation that consumer reports shares, they've they have hundreds of thousands of owners who send in information on a variety of vehicles. They deduced years ago that in order to stay average, in order to give an average rating two years in a row, the vehicle would have to improve by 10% just to stay level. If it didn't change, it would actually drop in the ratings. So in order to even get an average rating from consumer reports and their annual new vehicle ratings, you would have to improve 10% a year. You would have to continuously be improving. The reason why I bring this up is that of the remaining British-based or traditional British manufacturers, besides Land Rover, is Mini. And you may have heard of Mini. Mini was part of British Rover at one time, which was now owned by BMW. Here's the funny thing. For this past evaluation, and we're talking about the JD Power U.S. Vehicle Dependability Study, is what we're talking about right here. Two high-volume British brands with vastly different results in this survey. The least expensive Land Rover vehicle, the Range Rover Evoke, 50 grand, cost twice as much as the least expensive two-door Mini Cooper Oxford edition. Which one do you think has higher quality? If you said the Mini Cooper, you've been listening, but get this. The Mini finished third behind Lexus, and here's a surprise, Buick. Very likely the highest ever showing for a British made car. Land Rover, by comparison, still stuck in the muck near the bottom of the rankings. The same place has been stalled for years. I don't get it. I don't get it. When you spend your hard-earned money and when you invest in an aspirational brand, I mean, after all, Land Rover's been around since 1948. You are expecting a vehicle, a premium vehicle, to yield a premium experience. And part of that premium experience is not just the bells and whistles, it's the quality. Folks of a certain age might remember a certain television manufacturer that always used to say the quality goes in before the name goes on. And that was Zenith. You would think in this hyper competitive world in the automotive industry that every single manufacturer would have quality first and foremost. Now last week we talked about Stellantis. And the previous company, as Chrysler Corporation, had always had a problem with quality. And I reported last week that Stellantis went out and hired two thousand engineers. Two thousand. Their number one concern, their only concern. Not design, not fancy new things they can do. Quality. Quality. That's what they're talking about. Quality. They're recommitting to quality. Because they know at these price points, consumers ain't having it. The question you may ask, and it's the question I would ask, is okay, it's not like this is Range Rover or Land Rover's first rodeo. What is the problem? What's the problem? Well, bear in mind that Jaguar and Land Rover are owned by the same vote. And at one time, are you ready for this? It used to be owned by the Ford Motor Company. Ford paid two and a half billion dollars for Jaguar in 1989. They spent that equivalent again over the next 15 years trying to turn it around. And then finally they sold it. They sold it to an Indian company called Tata Motors, who owns these two brands. And right in the middle of everything, right now, Jaguar went offline because they were taking their whole lineup to electric, and it was gonna take about nine months, ten months, and they weren't making anything as they converted. And wouldn't you know it? Right in the middle of all of this, on top of everything else they're dealing with, they got hacked and jammed them up for another six weeks. Well, they ain't gonna do anything. It's like they couldn't catch a break. Couldn't catch a break. If that's not enough, their main plant where the Range Rovers are made was down until the middle of last month because of a supplier issue. So you gotta ask yourself there are automakers all around the world. Stallantis, Ford, General Motors, Toyota, Mercedes-Benz, BMW, Audi, Volkswagen, they all got to deal with the same pressures. They've got suppliers, they've got issues. They are in it to win it. Nobody is sitting around letting their quality slip. Shoot, Hyundai, Kia, and Genesis have been catching on like wildfire in the United States. Part of that is they've been improving quality for the last 25 years. They've been working on it. And they're competitive, and throughout all of this crazy right now, until just very recently, their sales have been growing by double digits. I don't understand this. I don't, I don't. You would think that if I was going to ask you to invest 70, 80, 90, 100, 110, 120,000 to buy one of my vehicles. That quality is the minimum I would expect out of an aspirational quality brand. And it's something for years that seems to have bedeviled both uh Jaguar and Land Rover. I don't get it. I mean, it was a beautiful vehicle, drove great. I mean, it had all kinds of stuff. It was really modern. But would I part with almost$100,000, knowing that the quality is at the bottom of the list? That even mass market cars, shoot, Chevrolet has higher quality than a Land Rover. Let that sink in. Chevy tracks, their entry level better. The AEP 100 hydrogen turboprop engine completed a 16-minute flight. You are listening to the Tech Mobility Show.

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A very smooth rise. And cabins that's so quiet. It might surprise you. The Nissan Sentra.

Hydrogen Turboprops And R&D Payoffs

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The Nissan Centra, formerly a Dotson, that vehicle has been in their lineup for over 45 years. Even still, still in the lineup today. An economical little car that they tried to really back then encourage you to believe that it was a little bit more powerful than it was. And bear in mind, these small cars, which were well made and got great gas mileage, weren't particularly powerful. In fact, you'd be impressed if that thing had more than 100 horsepower. And I kind of doubt that it did. But 1996 was the year, that's over 30 years ago. Just to give you an idea what they were pushing then, they wanted you to believe that that$11,599, where it started, would get you the equivalent of maybe a larger car in an economical smaller package. I'll leave you to be the judge of that. The first real-world test of a powerful hydrogen turboprop engine occurred earlier this year in China. Attached to a large unmanned cargo aircraft, the 16,535-pound craft, eight tons, was powered by the Chinese-built AEP 100 engine. Let me be clear. Just because America has stopped supporting alternative propulsion systems doesn't mean the rest of the world has too. This is topic A. Let me be plain here. Why am I even bringing this up? Who cares, right? Who cares about a hydrogen-powered turboprop engine? You should. Here's why. As long as you have an industry that is spending money to develop, expand, reach, get more efficient, there are knock-on benefits to inventions. Things that they learn in developing this, they'll be able to use in other industries, even. This is not just refined to or confined to the commercial aircraft industry. Now, number one, notice we're talking about a turboprop, not a jet engine. Number two, what that means is if it's a turboprop and it's successful, and chances are they're going to use that like they did in the test for just cargo. Let's look at that for a minute. If you can find a way to operate a cargo craft for less money, because right now the cost of uh aviation fuel, superimpose on that, it could be autonomous. Now I've just lowered the cost of delivery. And with all the sensors and the fact that because of where we are in the world, we are forcing China to become self-reliant. That means all the sensors, all the technology, everything they would need to develop that is autonomous, are going to be right there. And there will be synergies from all of this technology. Let me take you back. Let me give you context in the United States. During the period of the 1960s, when the US was fully invested in putting a man on the moon by the end of the decade, there was a lot of development going on, a lot of basic research going on, a lot of things going on that as a result found their way into retail and commercial applications. Why? Because we invested the money and got the knock-on benefits of, hey, we invested that, we invented this. Oh, by the way, you can use it over here. That's materials and processes and procedures. The challenge is and always has been, and I've seen it specifically in the auto industry. Every time there's a recession in the last 50 years, Detroit retrenches. First thing Detroit does is they stop spending research and development money. Second thing they do is then they pull back as best they can production. Then they start laying people off. Toyota, same situation. They don't lay people off. They'll get creative, but they keep them. They don't take their foot up from RD expenses because they know that RD is their way out when the recession goes away. They will have continued to advance. You don't believe me? Let me take you back 20 years ago, United States. Right before the Great Recession, under Alam Alaley, at the Ford Motor Company, the Ford Motor Company borrowed$19 billion. They mortgaged everything, including their logo. Why? The storm's coming. They were in the process of developing a brand new line of engines. The EcoBoost engines that are in Ford's today were developed 20 years ago. If Ford had taken their foot up, if Ford had delayed, if Ford hadn't spent that money, they would not have been positioned to capitalize on the rebound. Ford was able, Ford was the only one of the big three that did not need any kind of government guarantee. When you are looking forward, when you realize the value of research and development, and not just automobiles, but aircraft, pick your industry, doesn't matter. The winners every single time might cut everywhere else, but they'll never take their foot up off of research and development. We are in a time now in this world where technology is accelerating. Developments are getting faster. AI is kicked open doors that were unimaginable just five years ago. People can do literally multitudes of times more with fewer people and get further with a better result than ever before. And we're still learning everything. Let me go a little bit further about this particular test. It was a 16-minute flight. Doesn't sound like much. That was its first maiden flight. No doubt they will take information, they will tweak that, and it will get it better. But they will walk away with an advantage. But the question I ask, what other knock-on benefits did they get as a result of this program? As a result of getting this thing airborne, what else in terms of materials, ceilings, uh how hydrogen is used, stored, manipulated? What else did they learn? How else will they apply it? That, my friends, is the magical why you can't just stop. You can't be short-sighted and be in business. Because temporary gains are just that. Short-term gains never, ever benefit long-term strategies. And that's where we've got to be. I'm voting for research and development. Always, continuously, always. Because if you don't move forward, you die. Beer made with carbon dioxide captured from thin air. Only in California. But how does it taste? This is the Tech Mobility Show.

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Making Beer with CO2 Captured from Thin Air!

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Did you know that Tech Mobility has a YouTube channel? Hi, I'm Ken Chester, host of the Tech Mobility Show. Each week, I upload a few short videos of some of the hot topics that I cover during my weekly radio program. I've designed these videos to be informative and entertaining. It's another way to keep up on current mobility and technology news and information. Be sure to watch, like, and subscribe to my channel. That's the Tech Mobility Show on YouTube. Check it out. Just when you thought you've heard it all, a California craft brewery has launched what it claims is the world's first beer carbonated with carbon dioxide captured directly from the there on premise, marking a shift on how critical industrial input can be sourced. Cost? Taste? I got questions. This, this topic B. Full disclosure. I don't drink. I don't drink beer. Tried it once, did not like the taste. Sorry, just not my thing. But I couldn't walk past this. Right now, carbon dioxide is an important ingredient, not just in soft drinks, but in beer as well. And since typically CO2 is derived from other processes that are based in fossil fuels, obviously you can see where this is going. With the price of fossil fuels, feed stocks, whether it be crude oil or a derivative, you know, a mid-range derivative that it gets it from. Cost is an issue. What has been developed here, and I want to stress the fact that they are pulling CO2 carbon dioxide from the air at the brewery. This is an on-site carbon capture setup. It's not getting piped, it's not getting from somewhere else. They're doing it right there. The name of the company is Air Capture, a company focused on direct air capture, and they partnered with Almanac Beer Company to debut, it's called FLO Clean Air Edition, or FLO CAE for short. This system sits inside of Almanac's brewery in Alameda, California, and it pulls CO2 from ambient air and refines it to beverage grade quality before feeding it into the brewing process. This particular piece takes you back and talks about a nationwide CO2 shortage back four years ago, which disrupted operations and raised costs across food and beverage sectors, with breweries among the hardest hit. The shortage exposed a structural weakness, though. Most commercial CO2 comes from fossil fuel-linked processes such as ammonia and ethanol production. And when those slow or divert supply, downstreamers, downstream users feel the shock. So you're running a craft brewery and you're trying to mitigate your inputs like everybody. And if CO2 is related to anything to do with fossil fuels right now, uh the cost of CO2 that you are taking in, that you're bringing in has gone up significantly. As a producer of a product and your inputs are high, you also are sensitive to what your customers are willing to pay for your product. So you know you got a little room, but not much. So if the cost of CO2 goes up 50%, do you really think you can hike the price of your beer 50% now? So you need to do something. This system is scaled, not large. It's scaled for the brewery. And it produces liquid CO2 at 99.999% purity, exceeding standard beverage requirements. So you're getting on demand better than required at a lower cost. This approach reframes carbon dioxide as a localized input rather than a volatile byproduct. For brewers, it reduces exposure to supply disruptions and price wings. And it also offers a more predictable production environment. Until now, CO2 has been a volatile byproduct of fuel and chemical production. That's Matt Atwood, CEO and founder of Air Capture. With Flow Clean Air Addition, we're making high-purity CO2 from the air right where it's needed, and this is important, delivering it at a cost that works for business owners. Stop right there. We've talked about direct air capture, CO2. We talked about it at length. We talked about the initial processes in Iceland. We talked about how this process is incredibly energy efficient at the scale in which they were doing it. Here's the kicker though. Since they're not relying on fossil fuel link production, and since they've got it downscale, this is a small unit, and that's the magic. There are other applications: food, refrigeration, concrete production, and agriculture. And the most important thing, the approach is now, is now commercially viable rather than experimental. Commercially viable. What that means is it makes economic sense to the brewery. It means that the brewery can put the system in, get rid of one of their uh volatile inputs, and not interrupt their beer making processes. And commercial viable means it's at worst competitive and at best cheaper. And unlimited, really unlimited. The article doesn't talk about it, but I've got to assume that they got the energy consumption issue under control. The piece says that Almanac installed the unit without building a new facility or disrupting production. And the system now feeds the captured atmospheric CO2 directly into the brewing line. And that creates a closed loop process where carbon becomes a reusable resource. In other words, the brewery ends up benefiting the environment as a benefit, as a side benefit, because it's pulling greenhouse gases out of the air at the location in a cost-affordable way that makes sense to the brewery. Question I got Is this CO2 any different from the CO2 they were buying? And here's a side note because this is pure, does it impact the taste? Article doesn't say. I don't know how this stuff tasted uh with conventional source CO2 as opposed to the locally sourced CO2. Maybe it's a moot point. Because it looks like they didn't have to change anything. That pretty much, once they've refined it to that grade, they could put it right in the system, just like any other CO2 they've been buying. As a result, the brewery no longer depends on distant industrial CO2 supply. Here's a question. Depending on their production, and I have no idea what their capacity is, could they also resell it locally? It's food for thought. This could actually become a profit center, particularly if they have other brewers nearby or soft drink manufacturers nearby, or anybody else who has a need for stable, reliable, on-demand CO2. Can you imagine? This could not only help the brewery, but it could be a profit center. That is a question. But I would be curious for somebody to taste this stuff and compare it and said, well, you know, how does this compare to their other beers? Is there, do you even make a notice? They made a big deal about what where it's coming from, but at the end of the day, does it taste okay? Because you could be all this great stuff, but if beer don't taste good, nobody's buying it. Hard truth. So I guess we'll have to see. But here is another way people are tackling problems in front of them, particularly when it comes to greenhouse gases. They're making beer with it. Despite predictions of peak shale, a new level of scale and innovation may usher in its next act. We are the Tech Mobility Show.

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Shale Oil’s Next Wave Of Innovation

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Did you know that Tech Mobility has a YouTube channel? Hi, I'm Ken Chester, host of the Tech Mobility Show. Each week, I upload a few short videos of some of the hot topics that I cover during my weekly radio program. I've designed these videos to be informative and entertaining. It's another way to keep up on current mobility and technology news and information. Be sure to watch, like, and subscribe to my channel. That's the Tech Mobility Show on YouTube. Check it out. The shale oil sector in North America has been the driver of energy supply growth and independence over the last 20 years, reshaping the global energy landscape. Like the design like the dire predictions of peak oil over 50 years ago, the talk of peak shale actually may be premature. There are 27 emerging technologies and new oil-field practices that can unlock the next error for the shale oil industry. This is topic C. I've been accused by some of not telling both sides. Some people think I'm totally dialed in the EVs and totally dialed in to alternative energy. And while I still do believe it's the best thing for the planet and the best thing for your pocketbook, I do want to share both sides. So let's talk shale oil for a minute. I have said previously that the experts in the field were talking about peak shale in the next five years. Said that. I want to quantify that. I'm looking at a McKinsey and company white paper that says, and I quote, Shale's next surge, how 27 innovations could unlock a new growth error. This is in March. This came out this past March. And they're talking about a reimagining of everything. Some of it is technology at the well, some of it is technology how it's managed. But one thing's for sure. So let's deal with what we know and still true. Shale oil wells give the highest pressure and the most benefit in the first two to three years of its life. That didn't change. Those are called Tier 1 wells. Tier one wells are still going to play out. Where the magic is, is the tier two wells, of which there are 50 to 70,000, I'm sorry, 50 to 80,000 of them in the United States. There's potential there, but they're not as readily usable. The technologies that this white paper talks about is talking about pretty much how to take those tier twos and apply technology in such a way that they will come up to Tier 1 standards. At best, they believe that they can expand and delay peak shale to the late 2030s, at least through 2035, maybe a little later, depending. I won't bore you with all the technical jargon in this piece relative to how they're gonna do it. But what I can tell you, and I'm gonna skip to it, is that these 27 innovations wrap around the following areas in oil production oil field development, well drilling, something called completions. Once you get the well drilled in order to get it online. Production optimization. How do you get the most out of a well that's played out? Facilities. This is what they call midstream. This would be pipelines and storage facilities and all of that. And then finally, logistics and maintenance. All of these sections have a benefit of as they apply technology, and yes, yes, they're applying AI to in order to unlock more production to make it profitable. How profitable? They believe that they can reduce the break-even for these wells between seven and thirteen dollars a barrel. That the innovations could elevate between 55,000 and 80,000 tier two drilling sites to tier one status, potentially extending shale's peak by up to three years and increasing U.S. onshore oil production to as many as 13 million barrels of oil per day. And that's based on McKinsey analysis. Producers will have to pursue disciplined capital allocation, build consolidation-driven scale, and rapidly adopt and industrialize emerging technologies. Basically, as they talk to their investors, up till now the investors have been pulling money out. In order to get here, the investors are gonna have to be along for the ride. They're gonna have to scoop up available properties, which is what happens in the oil industry. Every time the price of oil drops below a certain level, the people who are overextended are the ones that usually get bought up. And usually it's a way for larger, better financed oil uh companies to buy capacity on the cheap, to buy additional rigs, to buy additional land, to buy a lot of other things that is less than market price. Because typically, if you're a wildcatter, you're operating on the edge, not just in what you bet where you're going to drill, but how you finance your business. Usually they are probably the most capital thin of the whole operation. There's a part in here for refiners too, and the problem is we've been closing refineries around the country. Not opening, closing them. There's also issues where it talks about the uh need for additional pipelines. Well, that's fine too, but most Americans have a not in my backyard mentality when it comes to this. And if you go back 10 to 15 years, there was a big to-do when the oil industry started shipping oil by train. You know, where you had unit trains like you would see in the Midwest for grain, you were seeing them for oil. And about 25 years ago, a major one derailed in a small Canadian town and basically wiped the town off the map. So people were really concerned about that. You might also remember the Keystone Pipeline and all the drama it went through to try to get that built. You may also know if you're living in the Midwest, the upper Midwest, there's a carbon capture pipeline trying to get built. It's not going well. And then we're in and we're in the Midwest. Can you imagine the more populated areas if you go to either coast trying to get a pipeline built from where the wells are, from where the refineries are? It's necessary. If we are going to get the benefit out of this expanded technology that the oil field and the oil producers will be using in order to get the most, absolute most, out of their current basins, out of their current places where they drill for oil, then we're going to have to come to some conclusions. I've said this before, and I'm not being hypocritical. It's going to be a while before we get away from fossil fuels totally. Whether you like it or not, I understand we're stuck for a while. I do believe it will shrink over time, but for now, we got to do what we gotta do. The problem is there's a good way to do it and there's a bad way to do it. And right now, they're looking at all sorts of things. We got here because of fracking, because of injecting mud and, believe it or not, carbon dioxide back into the ground to get more oil up out the ground. There's also an issue of electrical power needed to run the pumps to get the oil out of the ground. And that's a crazy argument. That the oil producers have actually had to build their own plant, electric plants, in order to run the jacks that take the oil up out the ground. Another story. I still don't understand it.

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SPEAKER_03 42:58

To learn more about the Tech Mobility Show, start by visiting our website. I'm Ken Chester, host of the Tech Mobility Show. The website is a treasure trove of information about me and the show, as well as where to find it on the radio across the country. Keep up with the happenings at the Tech Mobility Show by visiting Techmobility.show. You can also drop us a line and talk at TechMobility.show.

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